From dstromberglists at gmail.com Sun Aug 12 20:08:22 2007 From: dstromberglists at gmail.com (Dan Stromberg) Date: Sun Aug 12 20:14:46 2007 Subject: [mp3togo] mp3togo, tags, and silent adaptation Message-ID: <33c5a6c30708122008j62a99bb9ib3dbbb9026e7eaad@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for the great software. It enabled me to cram my music collection onto my 20G iAudio X5 running rockbox. Without mp3togo, it wouldn't have fit. I just found a moment to get tags to work on my Ubuntu system, and I wanted to make a suggestion to save others the difficulty. It'd be useful if mp3togo could, upon finding that an optional module isn't avaialble, warn the user and suggest what's missing - possibly even listing the package names in some of the more popular distributions. It's great that mp3togo is so adaptive, continuing even when key modules aren't available, but in a way, this makes diagnosing missing functionality harder when done silently. I installed the python ID3, python eyeD3 and python ogg.vorbis support to get tags functional, but I had to study the code a little and take some guesses as to Ubuntu package names to get there. Thanks again. From reallifesim at gmail.com Sun Aug 12 22:12:24 2007 From: reallifesim at gmail.com (sim) Date: Sun Aug 12 22:18:28 2007 Subject: [mp3togo] mp3togo, tags, and silent adaptation In-Reply-To: <33c5a6c30708122008j62a99bb9ib3dbbb9026e7eaad@mail.gmail.com> References: <33c5a6c30708122008j62a99bb9ib3dbbb9026e7eaad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Dan, On 8/12/07, Dan Stromberg wrote: > Thanks for the great software. It enabled me to cram my music collection > onto my 20G iAudio X5 running rockbox. Without mp3togo, it wouldn't have > fit. You are welcome, thanks for writing in; I always appreciate hearing from my users. I'm glad you have found mp3togo useful. > I just found a moment to get tags to work on my Ubuntu system, and I wanted > to make a suggestion to save others the difficulty. Did you install from the Debian package or from the tarball? The deb recommends or suggests the necessary dependencies. I've had mixed reports from people using the deb on Ubuntu, it seems it mostly works. I run Debian myself, but I try to keep the package working with Ubuntu. > It'd be useful if mp3togo could, upon finding that an optional module isn't > avaialble, warn the user and suggest what's missing - possibly even listing > the package names in some of the more popular distributions. It's great > that mp3togo is so adaptive, continuing even when key modules aren't > available, but in a way, this makes diagnosing missing functionality harder > when done silently. Good suggestion. mp3togo actually will produce that message, but only at higher than default verbosity levels. "mp3togo -v 2" will give module load errors. I may bump the default level and reorganize the priorities a bit. Module load errors should probably print by default, but be easily suppressed. Thanks for the suggestion Dan. > I installed the python ID3, python eyeD3 and python ogg.vorbis support to > get tags functional, but I had to study the code a little and take some > guesses as to Ubuntu package names to get there. Either ID3 or eyeD3 will work. eyeD3 is used preferentially as it has better unicode support. Some other packages that mp3togo will use: normalize-audio (very nice for headphones) flac, faad, python-xmms There are some slight differences in package names between Debian and Ubuntu that serve to further confuse things. It doesn't help that my package is homemade and very unofficial. I do always try and fix problems people report, I appreciate bug reports. I think I will make your suggested change. > Thanks again. My pleasure, thanks for writing in. -- sim From dstromberglists at gmail.com Thu Aug 23 19:03:57 2007 From: dstromberglists at gmail.com (Dan Stromberg) Date: Thu Aug 23 19:10:58 2007 Subject: [mp3togo] mp3togo, tags, and silent adaptation In-Reply-To: References: <33c5a6c30708122008j62a99bb9ib3dbbb9026e7eaad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <33c5a6c30708231903o70ebec73scbf08a52a5a05876@mail.gmail.com> On 8/12/07, sim wrote: > > > I just found a moment to get tags to work on my Ubuntu system, and I > wanted > > to make a suggestion to save others the difficulty. > > Did you install from the Debian package or from the tarball? The deb > recommends or suggests the necessary dependencies. I've had mixed > reports from people using the deb on Ubuntu, it seems it mostly works. > I run Debian myself, but I try to keep the package working with > Ubuntu. I downloaded mp3togo from the web, not realizing there was a deb. > It'd be useful if mp3togo could, upon finding that an optional module > isn't > > avaialble, warn the user and suggest what's missing - possibly even > listing > > the package names in some of the more popular distributions. It's great > > that mp3togo is so adaptive, continuing even when key modules aren't > > available, but in a way, this makes diagnosing missing functionality > harder > > when done silently. > > Good suggestion. mp3togo actually will produce that message, but only > at higher than default verbosity levels. "mp3togo -v 2" will give > module load errors. > > I may bump the default level and reorganize the priorities a bit. > Module load errors should probably print by default, but be easily > suppressed. Thanks for the suggestion Dan. Thanks for being receptive. It's always more fun to suggest things when people consider the suggestions. > > I do always try and fix problems people report, I appreciate bug reports. Awesome.